Today we filed our complants against Hastings Police in the County court.If you have ever attempted complaining to the police about any criminal matter involving Amicus Horizon staff-Policies-Methods please get in touch with us and share your experiences, especially if you are disabled or have a disabled family member.You are Equal in law. You do have the right to complain and you do have the right to protection from criminal behaviour.We do not accept that "Disability discrimination is a non crime" that Harassment is not an offence. We do not accept that Persecution, theft, threats, criminal damage, swearing are not offences and WE DO NOT ACCEPT that Hastings Police have the right or the powers to State that "Under no circumstances will they investigate complaints against Amicus Horizon staff.
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1066ha.14th.06.2011
THE POLICE SAY
So what was in the text message? A police officer says: This must be dynamite to get a Chief Inspector suspended, he then criticises the waste of public money £147. 00 per day and suggests that we will find out eventually after a week, or a month, or a year, or never.
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Two doctrines that have f*cked up policing (and every other public service):"We will do everything humanly possible to ensure an incident like this NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN".and …"We [WHOEVER] take matters of [WHATEVER] extremely seriously. We will be conducting a full, thorough and detailed enquiry and at the end of that if we find that one of our ex-employees has fallen short of our usually extremely high standards we will crucify them with all possible haste. We will also make a public example of them, whether we truly believe that to be proportionate and appropriate ourselves. Not only will we do the right thing (a.k.a. ensuring we don`t offend anyone by not sacking them) we will make sure that everyone sees us doing the right thing (sacking them) in a grand gesture that proves how sincere and serious we are about sacking people at the earliest opportunity when it gets us in the papers and draws unwanted attention on us, especially our chief exec/constable.This will ensure that that final 0.3% of the population that still carries even a momentary casual interest in our organisation will, for a brief fleeting moment in their busy lives, get a vague fuzzy feeling drift through their subconscious - one that may come to them in a dream months from now - that things are o.k. with us, we can cope, we`re on your side, hush now, close your eyes, sleep now, you look tired, you`re in safe hands, sshhhhhhh."Rock-a-bye (our communities) on the chopping block, when the shit hits the fan the status quo will rock, when the winds-of-change blow down a bad 'un we`ll sweep it under the carpet, up will stay chiefy, entourage and all."
R.C;At least the suspension will give him a break… unless I've misunderstood the nature of the duties of a "district commander", this is just one example of the all-too-prevalent abuse of the chief inspector rank.
I have to say, I'm coming around to the notion that the rank should be abolished - not because it isn't necessary, but because it's the only way to stop the abuse.
It does`nt seem to make any difference what goes on involving the disabled in this town or more specifically if it involves anything that may involve Hastings council - Amicus Horizon or a dodgy solicitor. The disabled are "Never in the Public interest" here unless it is to abuse them, bully them threaten them or accuse them of scrounging! Look higher up the page at the council squandering and its not difficult to identify the real scroungers.
We want to know the content of this text message because of the possibility that it was directed at us or our site or any disabled person or group in this town, we want to know the content because even if we are not in the public interest this high ranking public servant is?
We deserve to Know!
Any councillors making this request? apparently not
Hastings Disabled town crippled by a council thats just too busy looking after its own
1066ha.17th.06.2011
We actually received a letter from Amicus Horizon today about our long awaited wall repair. Apparently the man who came out and inspected the wall (weeks ago) is coming out on the 21st to "inspect" the wall. Nothing changes Amicus Horizons way of making sure its out of bounds until the wnter "again" They have asked if I can attend this inspection to discuss what repairs are needed, I am rarely lost for words but I have run out of ways to explain that the bricks need to be stuck together rather than just balanced one on top of the other.
Our friendly Hastings public servant gave us an update on Hastings councils latest plans for our adaptations, It will not change anything, Hastings council what a sad bunch!
#onereddrop 1066ha.18th.06.2011
After a wait that has lasted years, kept our rooms empty for months, 12 Surveys, 3 applications all of which were approved, we have finally reached the stage where Amicus Horizon will permit Hastings council to complete another application form. This great event will take place on the 28th June 2011 if any of you would like to come along and witness please do.
We know exactly what Hastings council are doing, with this and every other application, no other Hastings council has ever sunk as low as this one has under the guidance of Amicus Horizon Housing Association.We will go through the same motions again for the adaptions even though we know it will be pointless. We will not allow ourselves to get bored or downhearted, we will just record, keep records until the day comes when these bullies are called before a judge who hopefully will at least want to know the true nature of the relationship between Amicus Horizon-Hastings council-Booker and Best Ltd - Senior Hastings Police.
1066ha.30th.06.2011
On the 1st June 2011 we filed a complaint into Hastings county court against Hastings police. This complaint had been rejected previously because of errors so before taking it into Hastings court we took it to the Crown court office in Lewes and they gave us advice on presentation - exemption etc. When we finally submitted it into Hastings court we asked for it to be checked to make sure there were no errors. Hastings court staff went through it carefully and said it was alright.
We phoned the court a week later and asked if everything was in order and if it had been issued, they told us our exemption had been cleared but there was a delay in entering the summons on the court computers because of staff shortages.
We phoned again a week later and were assured that everything was fine but the summons had not been issued because they were too busy.
We phoned a week later and asked the same and received the same answer. It was at this point that I complained because I was aware of summonses entered into court after ours that had been issued, the clerk said that was true but she was`nt interested in hearing complaints, so we hand delivered a written complaint yesterday and today our applications and our exemptions were rejected and returned to us.
The opinion of everyone in charge seems to be that under no circumstances should anyone ever complain about the police, especially a respected senior officer but the complaint we entered was well deserved. Chief Inspector Mark Ling was suspended for sending an offensive text. Who cares! certainly not me, I think its pretty juvenile stuff but that was nothing to do with me. Our complaint was against his self made rule that "under no circumstances would he allow any investigation against Amicus Horizon staff" there is nothing juvenile about that, for us that was/is a very serious matter and the reason for that is Hastings police have watched and ignored us and others being verbally abused by Amicus Horizon staff, they have ignored complaints of fraud, threats of violence, theft, criminal damage and other offences while we all suffered!. They watched as we lived and slept on the floor in one room of our house for over two years!. They watched through the coldest winter this country had suffered for 30 years as Amicus Horizon disconnected our gas because there was no credit on the meter, they watched 5 false eviction threats. They watched as our children slept on chairs, they watched us demonstrate and protest in the street and they let off a dodgy solicitor who decided that instead of representing us he preferred for some mysterious reason to suddenly move to Amicus Horizons solicitors a few days after meeting with us and at the same time our files went missing. They ignored our solicitors lies and recorded evidence from us proving that he was a liar as well as the duty solicitor at Hastings police station.
Those are the reasons that we complained about the police and those are the reasons that our complaints will be resubmitted, I don`t care how much ducking and diving they all do our complaints will proceed because this is not just us, there are many instances of this Police - Amicus Horizon co operation which is wrong. I don`t care what was in the silly text and I even doubt that was the main reason he was suspended. I do know they were aware of our summons within an hour of it being handed into the court.
We are accused of breaking some unspoken rule "Don`t complain about the police" is that the same type of rule as "Don`t investigate Amicus Horizon?" because they still have not accepted our complaints or any of the evidence. There is something wrong about all of this but not at our end.We will continue.
#onereddrop 1066ha.05th.07.2011
We received a letter from Hastings county court today apologising for the delays in issuing our complaints against the police (still not issued) they say there was a delay caused to a few cases by an excessive workload. We have not received any contact from the police though, we presented them with complaints of theft accompanied by evidence and they still refuse to act.
To some Amicus Horizon disabled tenants this is normal treatment, no respect for their rights or property at all and the impartiality of the police once a crime is reported is so in favour of Amicus Horizon that it is embarrassing, Hastings council are even worse and as for Hastings court they refuse you even the right to speak. No one will prosecute Amicus Horizon staff no matter how dangerous or beligerent their behaviour becomes.
There is something dreadfully wrong in all of this. How many times have criminal complaints been presented to the police against this landlord? Dozens of times that we know of and just as many to Hastings council and at least three MP`s but Amicus Horizon remain immune from prosecution because they benefit from the protection of the police, it should not be like this and the police and Hastings council by their continued protection of these people are deliberately obstructing and perverting the course of justice.
We have a french solicitor who is willing to help us put our complaints against Hastings Police and Hastings council to the European court of Human Rights but would`nt it be nice if there was an English court who was willing to do this instead.
1066ha. #onereddrop
I am tired of our tired authorities squirming around tryng to cover up Amicus Horizons methods read the emails come to your own conclusions:
Dear Mr Morgan,
I write in relation to your recent complaint to the IPCC which I have been passed today as well as a previous complaint that had been sent to the Chief Constables Office.
I have been asked to temporarily take command of Hastings District whilst the investigation into CI Mark Ling takes place but previously I was the crime manager for East Sussex Division and prior to that was based in Brighton. I hope this assures you of my independence in this matter.
Due to the fact that I am unaware of the background to your complaints (other than the information provided via the IPCC and CC's office) it would be useful to discuss in order that I can investigate further. I am going away this weekend but return to work on Tuesday 26th July at 1400hrs. I would be free to meet with you that evening if it suited. I have tried to call you a couple of times on the number you provided the IPCC but it rings with no reply.
Please let me know if Tuesday would be a suitable time to meet and discuss your concerns. Regards
Laurence Taylor Detective Chief Inspector
Dear Sir, Thank you for your email message recieved today. I am very sorry that I was not at home today when you called. I would be very happy to meet you on tuesday to discuss our problems and thank you for this opportunity. You are very welcome to visit our home if you prefer and please trust our promise that we will not record any conversation which takes place or, if it is more convenient for you we are happy to attend the police station, Hastings or Lewes wherever you are based. May we ask that wherever we meet that you record the meeting so that you can see that our complaints are completely sincere and fully justified and also show the Chief constable the same if you feel it is necessary, we do not require a copy of any recording you make but we would appreciate your confirmation that a recording exists and remains in your possesion. Once again we thank you for this opportunity and hope that you will agree on behalf of the Sussex police to recover our missing property. Yours Sincerely Graeme Morgan1066 Housing Action
From a supporter (one of dozens!)to the policedear laurence taylor,thank you so much for your reply. i wrote to you because i am concerned that many disabled people involved in this situation believe that their complaints are not being taken seriously by the police. this is clearly unnacceptable if it is the case.i wrote to you not as one directly involved in the case, but as someone who had heard enough to be concerned for the treatment of disabled people involved.i hope this is not a problem for you.yours sincerely,fxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence.Taylor@sussex.pnn.police.uk
Dear Ms F, I write in relation to your E-mail below which raises a number of issues in relation to Amicus Housing. Firstly could I apologise in the length of delay in responding to this matter. I have recently returned from a three week course in South Wales and have been catching up with correspondence since my return. Due to a change in management in Hastings I have only just received this matter to investigate. You state in your E-mail that "Sussex Police refuse to accept complaints or evidence of crimes perpetrated against disabled residents by Amicus Horizon staff." This is absolutely not the case. Under the National Crime Recording Standards we are obliged to record any complaint of a crime and to investigate accordingly. However, if the matter does not meet the criteria of a "criminal matter" then we are unlikely to investigate. Many of the issues that get reported to us are a matter for the civil courts and it is through this process that we would anticipate any further action to be taken. The exception to this would be matters of Anti Social Behaviour and I would expect to see a joint response from the police and our partner agencies to manage any such issues. Where matters are reported to Sussex Police either through our call handling centre or directly to staff, they are recorded on an incident management system and allocated accordingly. I would then fully expect my staff to investigate properly regardless of who the complaint may be about. It also creates a full record of all matters reported to us and the response that has been given. However, if you have any specific examples of where this has not occurred or you believe that Sussex Police have acted improperly then I would be very happy to investigate further. I hope that this answers your query and that it helps to explain why Sussex Police may sometimes be perceived to have taken no action in areas where we have no jurisdiction. However, if you would like to raise further concerns or would like to discuss further please feel free to contact me. I look forward to hearing from you and if you would prefer to discuss please contact me on the mobile number below. Regards Laurence Taylor
Dear Sir,Since I responded to your earlier email message offering to meet with us we have been forwarded a reply from you to one of our group. We are very disappointed that you seem to have already decided upon the nature of our complaints before any meeting even takes place and once again before any evidence is viewed. We are shocked and dismayed at the attitude of the police towards our complaints which are certainly not of a civil nature and it is our right to have our complaints accepted and investigated just as you would complaints from Amicus Horizon Housing Association or Hastings duty solicitors.If our complaints are not going to be taken seriously is there any point in any member of Sussex police pretending any interest in a meeting?You mention anti social behaviour, we certainly do have evidence of that and also theft and/or perverting the course of justice and definite evidence of issuing false statement to a police officer and as you stated in your reply below you are aware of the nature of our complaints passed to you from the IPCC and the Chief Constable and we do not understand why you have chosen to imply that all are of a non criminal natureYour explanation to our concerned member that you have been away on a course is not a reason for any delay by the police who should have acted on these complaints many months ago, years in some cases. You also state that the police are obliged to record complaints of a criminal nature and I doubt that anyone could reasonably dispute the fact that you have failed to do this on numerous occasions from several disabled Amicus Horizon tenants. We are shocked and dismayed at the reply you have supplied to this enquiry, never before have we heard so many different excuses from so many different police officers in relation to non starting an investigation, it is shocking.Theft is not a civil issue, or anti social behaviour and we have already been assured by a police officer with 23 years of experience that the police can and should act on complaints of harrassment and again we are truly shocked at the influence Amicus Horizon Housing Association appear to have over your police force.Your statement that ." This is absolutely not the case. Under the National Crime Recording Standards we are obliged to record any complaint of a crime and to investigate accordingly. However, if the matter does not meet the criteria of a "criminal matter" prejudges an investigation into a complaint that you have no knowledge of and I repeat our request to have our complaints dealt with properly, we did not approach the police with these matters recklessly or in any attempt to seek attention and we have never been comfortable about our complaints against the police which is a situation that is of great concern to us and is causing us extreme anxiety. Your officers have acted incorrectly and if we did not have specific matters to put to you we would never have complained in the first place, we certainly would not be publishing details or organising petitions.We are going to pursue these matters until they are dealt with properly but it is for you to decide if you would still like to meet with us but if we do attend any meetings with any police officer nothing will convince us that the offences against us are of a civil nature and nothing will convince us that the police have acted properly or even kept to their word that they would be in touch with us. The last contact we had we were advised that the police would contact us on the 25th May but they never bothered.If it is the intention of Sussex police to deal with our complants fairly may I once again state to you that I wish to report a theft and that if Sussex police act as they should have done many weeks ago and attend the offices of Hastings duty solicitor Jocelyn Holden Liberty Buildings Robertson Street Hastings (as previously requested on 5 occassions) and take possession of our files currently held there, they will find that not only has a theft occurred but that false statements have been issued to the police as our telephone recordings have already shown. Mr Holden has already recieved ample warning from the police that we have reported these matters and more than ample time to create false evidence and we hope that you will act as soon as possible to secure this fast disappearing evidence, You have our consent to take possession of these files if you need it and I think it would be very helpful if you had them prior to meeting with us then you could listen to our recordings of Mr Holden. We do not expect you to have any faith in us but we hope that such a high ranking officer would have faith in what he sees with his own eyes and hears with his own ears, taking into account that this individual has been forewarned all the way.If we can persuade other members to come forward (They are frightened by the police involvement) you will also recieve statements where one disabled person attempting to report threats from Amicus Horizon staff was told to F*** off by a police officer or face arrest himself.We are not confident that any of these matters are recieving or are likely to recieve any serious or proper investigation.We are attending a meeting with a journalist next week, we have forwarded copies of your response to F to them.Yours SincerelyGraeme Morgan 1066 Housing Action
Temporary Hastings District Commander
Dear Mr Morgan,As you will understand from my E-mail to another party I have not made any inference or drawn any conclusions about the nature of your specific allegations. It is a shame that you have chosen to read the E-mail that way.The E-mail that has been forwarded to you was a response to another E-mail which had been sent by a colleague whilst I was away which adds the context to my comments. Obviously reading the E-mail in isolation has led you to misunderstand. It also states the position of Sussex Police in relation to the reporting of crime as that individual had no matters that they wished to report personally. You will also note I received your complaint from the IPCC after I had sent that E-mail.As I stated in my previous E-mail I cannot possibly comment on your situation until I understand what it is. I have no previous experience of your issues and cannot address them unless I'm told what they are. It is clear that you feel let down by the police but unless you are prepared to speak to me I cannot try to resolve the issue.Please let me know how you wish to progress. I am available next Tuesday if you wish to meet.RegardsLaurence Taylor Detective Chief Inspector Graeme,Would you like to come to Hastings Police Station on Tuesday 26th at 1900hrs and we can discuss then. If it is easier for you then I could come to you.RegardsLaurenceLaurence Taylor Detective Chief Inspector
Dear Sir, I will always meet with anyone to discuss the issues we have with the criminal methods of Amicus Horizon staff especially any senior police officer, We will attend a meeting at the time and place most convenient to you because we know you have much more important things to do but I have to state again that I request that Hastings police takes possession of my legal files from Holden and co if they are really interested in identifying the crime that the police are making it so difficult to have investigated Sincerely Graeme Morgan 1066 Housing Action
Dear Sir, I will attend the meeting at Hastings police on tuesday 1900 hours, may I ask that it could be conducted downstairs as stairs are difficult for me. I will be accompanied by my wife incase I am ill but she is not involved in any of these issues. May I also state now to save me doing so on the day that my civil action against the police is not designed as any sort of cash raiser, the only reason a financial value has been placed on those claims is because the court would not accept our applications without one as the courts have no powers to order the police to do any service. Will the police be collecting my file from Holden solicitors? I cannot because he will only release it to me if I sign a reciept for files that he no longer has so that he can extricate himself from the difficulty he is in because of his own past actions. Should I bring anything with me? is this just a discussion or would you like to see anything? Sincerely Graeme Morgan1066 Housing Action
Graeme,In light of your difficulties with stairs I will come to you so as not to make things difficult. Is 1900hr OK for you.LaurenceLaurence Taylor Detective Chief Inspector Crime Manager East Sussex Division
Dear Sir,
7pm is fine, if you have to cancel or rearrange for any reason before then please just choose whenever is most convenient to youSincerelyGraeme Morgan
Graeme,Further to my last. The purpose of the meeting is so that I can hear from you what all the issues are and get a proper understanding of your concerns. I'm not sure about the file you talk of but will make some enquiries next week.RegardsLaurence Taylor Detective Chief Inspector Crime Manager East Sussex Division
Dear Sir, The file I am referring to is the same file that is referred to throughout our complaints which disappeared from Holden and co at the same time our solicitor decided to go to work for Amicus Horizons solicitors Housing Law Services. II would not be at all surprised if Mr Holden does not have a copy by next week 1066 Housing Action
